tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1960211300672291948.post1432391294398017712..comments2023-08-21T11:21:55.665-04:00Comments on John's Grace Walk (Mysterium Tremendum): Christian MysticismJohn Fincherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05458897526460534434noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1960211300672291948.post-82305978185172432122009-04-02T08:23:00.000-04:002009-04-02T08:23:00.000-04:00Matt,The first answer I would give is faith ALWAYS...Matt,<BR/><BR/>The first answer I would give is faith ALWAYS comes first. The Bible seems to teach that even THAT faith is from Him - so we can't say ANY of it was on our part. God does it all.<BR/><BR/>Theologians call it "prevenient" Grace and some have said that God is always previous.<BR/><BR/>I believe that if you have a hunger for Him, then He is drawing you. I think that's pretty cool.<BR/><BR/>The school of modern theology has taught that faith come through (the sinner's) prayer - but that is taught NOWHERE in the Bible.<BR/><BR/>So long answer short is that I believe we are united with Him through faith, before prayer or meditation.John Fincherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05458897526460534434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1960211300672291948.post-17144593504997177222009-04-02T06:05:00.000-04:002009-04-02T06:05:00.000-04:00Do you see a sense in which we are united with God...Do you see a sense in which we are united with God through faith, before we even pray or meditate?Matt Stonehttp://mattstone.blogs.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1960211300672291948.post-43308650523757935452009-03-26T15:26:00.000-04:002009-03-26T15:26:00.000-04:00True. We don't want to base our faith on 'experien...True. We don't want to base our faith on 'experience'. Jesus didn't say our experiences will set us free; He said, the TRUTH will set us free.Bino M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02303467552834533436noreply@blogger.com